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I just can't think which film you see Gromit coming towards the screen and his nose has a big fingerprint on it... I love that! Was it in Curse of the Were-Rabbit?
I wonder if I would love as much if they weren't plasticine. Would you? All the work that goes into making the models and stop motion makes them more amazing.
I've heard people on the forum say they like A Grand Day Out best because the characters and sets don't look as polished. I don't like them to look too perfect, either. That's one reason I don't like CGI. How about you?
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Same with me I loved Grand Day Out for that reason.
i dont but i hate cgi films
As a model maker, I can say that the more you do the better you get at doing it, whether it is your technique or that you just find better maybe faster ways of creating the models. Experience from trying various effects and methods help later when time constraints dictate so your models may well appear more 'polished'. I think every artist goes through the same process. Also when you are creating for an audience you become more self critical of your work so you want it to be better.
That's interesting, Entwhistle, I just started making things a few weeks ago so I don't know how it is. Hadn't thought that they might start looking better because the artist gets better or finds an easier way- that's interesting. I just assumed they took more time because they could afford to. But that can be part of it too like you said.
have then messy because it's good to show the texture of plasticine other wis it will be boring and look computer generated
I like the way that Plasticine shows that you've touched it. And I don't dislike CGI films. In fact, I want to either be a stop-motion animator or CGI animator. There are some CGI films that I've loved all my life, eg. Toy Story. But I think stop-motion is WELL better!
i like having my models clean when animating but i do give away that theyve been touched. just 2 show its not CGI which i think is unesesry as nothing can beat a good film filled with tons of plasticine
Yeah, good point.
You know someone's a good animator when they go from trying to get their models smooth and looking clean to adding imperfections so we don't think it's CGI!
I dont mind cgi but i really move things that have made with real things (plasticine)
Pingu has turned CGI apparantly!
i think clean models are nice. Their is a difference between clean and fingerprinted models. How would you feel if wallace was dirty with bits of dirt and dust on his face. But because he is fingerprited doesn't mean he is dirty. I think cgi is ok and respect the people to it. It is very difficult to do cgi but stop motion is better i think cause it feels more realistic
Well thought out opinion. When it comes to the dust and such in the air, I don't know how animators keep their models actually clean. They must have air purifiers running all the time.
you know what i mean jills. If wallace was engrained with hairs and bits of dirt and mixed with other colours it would lose it's appeal. The models are really well done
I know what you meant plasjas, and I did mean that you had stated that well-- no sarcasm here! I was serious about wondering how they keep the models so clean, I mean, do wet wipes really work? Because no matter how tidy I try to keep things, it seems lots of bits find their way onto my models. I keep them covered usually, with plastic, too
eeerm i just well i don't know i just keep everything seperate. That helps i used to just have a massive mush of plasticine and tried to scavange bits of colour off it then i got organised yeah
I have seen lots of pictures and videos of Animators on set and when there not animating they have a peice of Cling Film over the top of the model covering it all from dust. It does not have to be pushed on as it only needs to be holding by the top of the head.
Hi Harry, thanks
There are different ways of making puppets than using plasticine. Its not the only way. Build-up, Foam latex, liquid latex, slush-cast, hard heads, replacement heads, replacement mouths, fabric clothing etc.
So, not all animators get that problem. I think that this forum is more devoted to just using plasticine, so when I saw that Ursut was experimenting with fabric clothes, I was quite pleased.
Untill up to now, on the puppets I've made, I haven't used plasticine much, normally latex or hard heads.
But on this film I'm using clay for the heads and hands, and fabricated clothes over foam cvered armatures (Foam gives limbs shapes and make the puppet easier to animate with clothes)
'Cleaner' is DEFINATELY the best. Its how you sculpt and smooth the clay that matters. You always want the clay to be clean from dirt and dust etc. You just need to find that mix between over smoothed and rough sculpting. Define the features and make the sculpt lively and realistic, not so clean and smoothed its like marshmallow.
they are way better when there made out of plasticine and nick park said its an ardman trademark to have fingerprints on them
i think it looks cool that you can see the fingerprints on the models. It shows it's not just all computer animated!!! I also luv the bug fingerprint on Gromits nose
Sometimes if the fingerprints show up differently every frame then it looks slightly weird cos it looks like their skin/clothes/plasticine are moving around. If you look at and In the curse of the were-rabbit and you see lady Tottington speaking to Wallace when he finishes with the BV6000 her skin flails around at her neck!
cgi is okay, but stopmotion is the best.
Yeh I agree!
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stop-motion with plastecine has a great touch,like a mini-world. there something great about that. i personally like the models in the wrong trousers because they where nice and fingerprinty though not dirty. i don't like amolad so much because it's all polished and non-finger printy
cracking tost amolad is fingerprinty
Walace and Gromit wouldn't be Walace and Gromit if they weren't plasticine!
I love it how you can see the fingerprints and sometimes (I spotted it once or twice in COTWR) you can see the stop motion!!!
cool chris,compare amolad models to twt models. the wrong trousers ones are much more fingerprinty,amolad ones have got fingerprints,but hardly
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